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International rugby referee Ben O鈥橩eeffe's spent years playing a key role in the sport - and he's seen the best and the worst the game's had to offer.
Referee abuse and poor sideline behaviour are long-standing issues in New Zealand sport, and O鈥橩eeffe says it's one of the tougher parts of the role.
He joined the Afternoons team to explain further.
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