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The US is trying to convince Australia to lift its defence spending 鈥渁s soon as possible.鈥
US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth is pushing for a rise of 3.5 percent.
He says it's a protection measure against the threat of China.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says his country will determineits own defence policy.
Australian Correspondent Murray Olds joins the show to discuss this and Trump鈥檚 new steel tariff.
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