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New Zealand appears to be a gateway for migration to other countries.
Latest Stats NZ data shows there were 14 thousand migrant arrivals and nearly 10 thousand departures in the year to July.
Massey University sociologist Paul Spoonley told Ryan Bridge we're seeing more people migrate to New Zealand, who then move on to Australia.
He says the Australians have been actively recruiting here for a number of years, offering better salaries and pension conditions.
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