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Intercepted call of Iranian officials downplays damage of American bombing attack

Author
John Hudson, Warren P. Strobel - Washington post,
Publish Date
Mon, 30 Jun 2025, 11:25am
US President Donald Trump speaks during a press briefing at the White House on Friday local time. Photo / Demetrius Freeman, the Washington Post
US President Donald Trump speaks during a press briefing at the White House on Friday local time. Photo / Demetrius Freeman, the Washington Post

Intercepted call of Iranian officials downplays damage of American bombing attack

Author
John Hudson, Warren P. Strobel - Washington post,
Publish Date
Mon, 30 Jun 2025, 11:25am

The United States obtained intercepted communication between senior Iranian officials discussing the US military strikes on Iran鈥檚 nuclear programme and remarking that the attack was less devastating than they had expected, said four people familiar with the classified intelligence.

The communication, intended to be private, included Iranian government officials speculating as to why the strikes directed by US President Donald Trump were not as destructive and extensive as they had anticipated, these people said.

It is the latest preliminary information offering a more complicated picture than the one conveyed by the President, who has said the operation 鈥渃ompletely and totally obliterated鈥 Iran鈥檚 nuclear programme.

The Trump Administration did not dispute the existence of the intercepted communication, which has not been previously reported, but strenuously disagreed with the Iranians鈥 conclusions and cast doubt on their ability to assess the damage at the three nuclear facilities targeted in the US operation.

鈥淚t鈥檚 shameful that the Washington Post is helping people commit felonies by publishing out-of-context leaks,鈥 said White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt.

鈥淭he notion that unnamed Iranian officials know what happened under hundreds of feet of rubble is nonsense. Their nuclear weapons programme is over.鈥

Analysts broadly agree that the strikes involved immense US firepower, including 13,610kg bunker-buster bombs and Tomahawk cruise missiles, that severely damaged the nuclear facilities in Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan.

But the extent of the destruction and how long it may take Iran to rebuild has been hotly debated amid reports that Iran moved its stockpiles of highly enriched uranium before the strike and that the explosions sealed off the entrance to two of the facilities but did not collapse their underground buildings.

When asked about the intercepted communication, a Trump Administration official said the Iranians were 鈥渨rong because we鈥檝e destroyed their metal conversion facility. We know that our weapons were delivered precisely where we wanted them to be delivered and they had the effect that we wanted.鈥

During classified congressional briefings, CIA Director John Ratcliffe told lawmakers that several key nuclear sites were completely destroyed, including Iran鈥檚 metal conversion operations, a US official said.

The facility, which is key to building a bomb鈥檚 explosive core, would take years to rebuild, the official said. Ratcliffe also said the US intelligence community assesses that the 鈥渧ast majority鈥 of Iran鈥檚 enriched uranium is 鈥渓ikely buried at Isfahan and Fordow鈥.

After the Washington Post sought comment from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, a senior US intelligence official said that 鈥渙ne slice of signals intelligence on its own does not reflect the full intelligence picture鈥.

鈥淎 single phone call between unnamed Iranians is not the same as an intelligence assessment, which takes into account a body of evidence, with multiple sources and methods,鈥 this official said.

Intercepted phone calls, emails and other electronic communications, known as signals intelligence, are among the most powerful tools in US spy agencies鈥 arsenal and often make up the majority of intelligence in Trump鈥檚 daily intelligence briefing.

But signals intelligence also has limitations, as overheard snippets of conversations sometimes lack context and must be paired with other information for a fuller picture of events.

Trump has been furious about news coverage that has deviated from his claims about the bombing mission, which preceded a ceasefire between Iran and Israel ending 12 days of hostilities.

鈥淭he Democrats are the ones who leaked the information,鈥 he wrote on Truth Social, referring to a preliminary assessment from the Pentagon鈥檚 Defence Intelligence Agency that Trump鈥檚 intervention likely set back Iran鈥檚 nuclear programme by months, not years. 鈥淭hey should be prosecuted!鈥

Trump also cast doubt on reports that the uranium stockpile was moved, saying during a prerecorded interview with Fox 九一星空无限 that is scheduled to air today: 鈥淚 don鈥檛 think they did, no. It鈥檚 very hard to do; it鈥檚 very dangerous to do 鈥 they didn鈥檛 know we were coming until just then.鈥

The Defence Intelligence Agency finding was based on information available roughly 24 hours after the strike and concluded that some of Iran鈥檚 centrifuges, used to enrich uranium that could be used in a nuclear weapon, remain intact.

Nuclear facilities in Iran. Photo / Getty Images
Nuclear facilities in Iran. Photo / Getty Images

The Trump Administration has criticised some media outlets for failing to note that the DIA report, which it deems 鈥渓ow confidence鈥, cautions that a full battle damage assessment requires 鈥渄ays-to-weeks to accumulate the necessary data to assess effects on the target system鈥.

However, the Administration has not waited to assert its own sweeping conclusions that the strikes have set back Iran鈥檚 programme for 鈥測ears鈥.

Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth, who briefed reporters on the operation alongside the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, General Dan Caine, said Trump 鈥渄irected the most complex and secretive military operation in history - and it was a resounding success鈥.

On Capitol Hill, disagreements about the effectiveness of the strikes remained after the Trump Administration鈥檚 classified briefings to lawmakers.

鈥淚 walk away from that briefing still under the belief that we have not obliterated the programme,鈥 Senator Chris Murphy (Democrat-Connecticut) told reporters.

鈥淭he President was deliberately misleading the public when he said the programme was obliterated. It is certain that there is still significant capability, significant equipment that remain.

鈥淵ou cannot bomb knowledge out of existence - no matter how many scientists you kill,鈥 Murphy added.

鈥淭here are still people in Iran who know how to work centrifuges. And if they still have enriched uranium and they still have the ability to use centrifuges, then you鈥檙e not setting back the programme by years. You鈥檙e setting back the programme by months.鈥

Senator Lindsey Graham (Republican-South Carolina), a close ally of Trump, said 鈥渙bliteration鈥 was a 鈥済ood word鈥 to describe the strikes, which he said set back the programme for years. But he acknowledged Iran鈥檚 capabilities could be restored.

鈥淭he real question is, have we obliterated their desire to have a nuclear weapon?鈥 Graham told reporters. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 want people to think that the site wasn鈥檛 severely damaged or obliterated. It was. But having said that, I don鈥檛 want people to think the problem is over, because it鈥檚 not.鈥

A US official familiar with the Administration鈥檚 closed briefing for lawmakers said that Ratcliffe, the CIA director, highlighted the Israelis鈥 destruction of Iran鈥檚 air defences ahead of the US operation to assert that 鈥渢he idea that they can easily rebuild anything is ludicrous鈥.

The director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Rafael Mariano Grossi, offered a mixed assessment during an interview with CBS 九一星空无限 that was broadcast today.

There is agreement that 鈥渁 very serious level of damage鈥 was done to Iran鈥檚 nuclear programme, he said.

鈥淚ran used to have and still has, to some degree, capabilities in terms of treatment, conversion and enrichment of uranium.鈥

The facilities 鈥渉ave been destroyed to an important degree. Some is still standing,鈥 he said.

Critics of Trump鈥檚 decision to use military force argue that he scuttled the chance of a diplomatic resolution, which is the only way of establishing an intrusive inspection regime to restrict and monitor Iran鈥檚 nuclear programme.

Tehran may also be more inclined to race towards a bomb as an insurance policy against any future regime change efforts by Washington or Israel.

Before the US attack, the US intelligence community concluded that Iran had not yet decided to build a nuclear bomb but was working on pathways to speed up the process if it chose to do so, US officials have said.

US officials counter that Trump鈥檚 strikes don鈥檛 preclude a diplomatic agreement and could improve the chances of one.

Last Wednesday, Trump announced that US and Iranian officials would meet this week to discuss a potential nuclear deal, but Iran鈥檚 Foreign Minister, Abbas Araghchi, quickly denied that any meeting would occur.

Araghchi has said the impacts of the US strike 鈥渨ere not little鈥 and that Iranian authorities were determining the new realities of the country鈥檚 nuclear programme, which would inform Tehran鈥檚 diplomatic outlook.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran鈥檚 Supreme Leader, has said Trump 鈥渆xaggerated鈥 the results of his strikes. 鈥淭hey attacked our nuclear facilities,鈥 he said, 鈥渂ut they were unable to do anything important.鈥

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