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A combative Pam Bondi clashes with US senators

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Washington Post,
Publish Date
Wed, 8 Oct 2025, 1:20pm
US Attorney-General Pam Bondi testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee at the Capitol. Photo / Demetrius Freeman, The Washington Post
US Attorney-General Pam Bondi testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee at the Capitol. Photo / Demetrius Freeman, The Washington Post

A combative Pam Bondi clashes with US senators

Author
Washington Post,
Publish Date
Wed, 8 Oct 2025, 1:20pm

A defiant United States Attorney-General Pam Bondi eagerly clashed with Democrats in a Senate oversight hearing today, as she defended her record against accusations she has weaponised the Justice Department to shield President Donald Trump鈥檚 allies and target his foes.

Testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Bondi countered that her predecessors in the Biden Administration had politicised the agency first.

She touted her efforts in eight months in office to refocus federal law enforcement on combating illegal immigration and violent crime.

She repeatedly dodged questions on pressing issues: such as the department鈥檚 decision to prosecute former FBI director James Comey; its review of its case files on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein; and a now closed FBI bribery investigation into Trump鈥檚 border tsar Tom Homan.

And again and again through almost five hours of exchanges, she lashed out at committee Democrats, responding to their questions with personalised, non sequitur attacks.

鈥淒on鈥檛 you ever challenge my integrity,鈥 Bondi responded to questions over whether she had improperly let Trump influence the department鈥檚 decisions.

鈥淚 have abided by every ethical standard. Do not question my ability to be fair and impartial as Attorney-General.鈥

Today鈥檚 oversight hearing, Bondi鈥檚 first appearance before the Judiciary Committee since her confirmation hearing in January, came at a contentious moment.

In eight months at the helm of the Justice Department, scores of veteran prosecutors and federal agents have been fired, forced out or resigned.

Bondi has endured persistent blowback from the right over her decision to reverse course and withhold documents related to the department鈥檚 investigation of Epstein.

And Democrats have assailed her for decisions to de-emphasise traditional work carried out by the Justice Department - such as enforcing public corruption, civil rights and national security laws - in favour of deploying resources in furtherance of Trump鈥檚 political aims.

Bondi鈥檚 combative exchanges, excerpted and shared on social media in real time by Administration officials, appeared designed to appeal to a president who has consistently prized partisan pugnaciousness in his Cabinet officials.

They could also counter criticism Bondi has received from some corners of Trump鈥檚 base who have called for her to more aggressively target his perceived foes.

She accused Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-Connecticut) of lying about his military record to win elections, insinuated Senator Mazie Hirono (D-Hawaii) supported antifa, and questioned campaign donations Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-Rhode Island) received which Republicans have since sought to link to a donor tied to Epstein.

At one point, she angrily dismissed Senator Dick Durbin (D-Illinois) when he asked whether Trump had consulted with her before his deployment of National Guard troops to Chicago, a city Durbin represents.

鈥淚 wish you loved Chicago as much as you hate President Trump,鈥 Bondi shot back. 鈥淚f you鈥檙e not going to protect your citizens, President Trump will.鈥

Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) questions Bondi during today's hearing. Photo / Demetrius Freeman, The Washington Post
Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) questions Bondi during today's hearing. Photo / Demetrius Freeman, The Washington Post

Democrats expressed alarm about what they described as the swift erosion of the Justice Department鈥檚 credibility and Bondi鈥檚 willingness to accede to Trump鈥檚 growing influence over the agency - including his demands last month that she move quickly to prosecute those he considers political enemies, such as Comey.

Such levels of White House interference would 鈥渕ake even President Nixon recoil鈥, Durbin, the committee鈥檚 top Democrat, remarked.

Hirono expressed her concern more bluntly.

鈥淲hat was once the Department of Justice has become the Department of Revenge and Corruption,鈥 she said.

鈥淩ather than pursuing cases without fear or favour, this DOJ seeks to favour the President鈥檚 friends and instil fear in his alleged enemies.鈥

Comey is set to make his first appearance in federal court tomorrow on charges he lied to Congress, accusations he has denied.

The Justice Department secured its indictment against him over objections from career prosecutors - including Erik Siebert, the former US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia - who had concluded there was insufficient evidence to move forward with a case.

Asked about her role in that investigation and the Administration鈥檚 decision to oust Siebert to make way for a new appointee willing to pursue a prosecution, Bondi refused to answer, saying she could not discuss ongoing criminal matters.

Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minnesota) pressed Bondi on whether she interpreted a social media post from Trump days before Comey鈥檚 indictment, which urged the Justice Department to move swiftly to bring a case against the former director, as an explicit directive and an improper breach of traditional firewalls that for decades have shielded her agency from White House pressure.

鈥淧resident Trump is the most transparent president in American history,鈥 Bondi responded. 鈥淚 don鈥檛 think he said anything he hasn鈥檛 said for years.鈥

The Attorney-General added: 鈥淐omey was indicted in the Eastern District of Virginia by, I may point out, one of the most liberal grand juries in the country.鈥

Bondi sidestepped questions on a number of other issues, including: whether she had discussed the Comey case with Trump; whether she was consulted before the President deployed federal agents and National Guard troops to Democratic cities such as Washington and Chicago; and whether she thought there was a legal basis for recent military strikes on boats that Administration officials say were engaged in drug trafficking.

Republicans, including the Judiciary Committee鈥檚 chairman, Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa, commended Bondi鈥檚 leadership as a necessary corrective after years of what he has assailed as politicised decision-making under the Biden Administration.

Grassley yesterday released records indicating that the FBI, under Biden, had analysed phone records of several GOP lawmakers - including some of the Judiciary Committee鈥檚 members such as senators Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) and Josh Hawley (R-Missouri) - as part of its investigation into Trump鈥檚 alleged efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

Those records were obtained through a grand jury investigation led by special counsel Jack Smith and showed only the numbers those lawmakers called and the duration of the calls, not their content.

Smith had previously disclosed steps taken by his team to investigate whether lawmakers had been involved in Trump鈥檚 alleged efforts.

Grassley today called those actions by Smith 鈥渁n outrage鈥 and an 鈥渦nconstitutional breach鈥. He and several Republican members of the committee pressed Bondi to open an investigation of the matter and potentially pursue criminal prosecution.

Graham asked Bondi: 鈥淐an you tell me why my phone records were sought by the Jack Smith agents? Why did they ask to know who I called?鈥

Almost simultaneously, FBI Director Kash Patel said on X that he had fired 鈥渢hose who acted unethically鈥 and opened an investigation into Smith鈥檚 subpoenas of the senators鈥 phone records.

Bondi declined to answer questions about any steps the Justice Department might be taking - though she characterised Smith鈥檚 broader investigation as a 鈥渨asted US$50 million鈥 effort to 鈥減ut President Trump in jail鈥.

Several senators reminded Bondi of vows she made during her January confirmation hearing that 鈥減olitics would play no part鈥 in her role as Attorney-General.

She also maintained at the time that she could not imagine a scenario in which the President might ask her to do something immoral, illegal, or unconstitutional over the objections of career Justice Department staffers.

Despite all that鈥檚 happened in the eight months since, Bondi insisted near the conclusion of the hearing: 鈥淚 absolutely have upheld that commitment鈥.

- Perry Stein and Katherine Tarrant contributed to this report.

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