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‘Just jamming up all the lockers’ - rescue gear doesn't fit in new fire trucks

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RNZ,
Publish Date
Wed, 1 Oct 2025, 3:25pm
NZ’s new fire engines can’t fit all rescue gear. Photo / 123RF
NZ鈥檚 new fire engines can鈥檛 fit all rescue gear. Photo / 123RF

‘Just jamming up all the lockers’ - rescue gear doesn't fit in new fire trucks

Author
RNZ,
Publish Date
Wed, 1 Oct 2025, 3:25pm

By Phil Pennington of 

The country鈥檚 newest fire engines cannot be used at rescues because they are too small to fit all the lifesaving gear they need to carry.

Firefighters say managers have even talked about cutting holes in them to make room for the gear.

Fire and Emergency New Zealand said it was 鈥渘ot ideal鈥, but it was working on a solution. In the meantime, delivery of the engines has been disrupted.

One firefighter called it 鈥渞idiculous鈥, but 鈥渘ot unexpected鈥.

Fire and Emergency NZ spent millions of dollars and five years shipping the 28 medium-sized fire trucks 鈥 called a Type 3, the fleet workhorse 鈥 to Britain to get them fitted out.

They have now returned to New Zealand, with stations with old trucks that keep breaking down expecting them.

But two trial runs at packing gear on them last month did not go well.

鈥淪o we were having to stow gear on top of other gear and it was just jamming up all the lockers,鈥 said Hamilton firefighter Jamie Marshall-Carter.

鈥淲e were trying to get to other important rescue gear and we were unable to get it out because we were having to offload things on top.鈥

They pulled the plug on the two-day test after just four hours.

Senior firefighter Adam Wright witnessed the same thing in Auckland on September 9.

Photos show the floor around the new truck covered in gear.

鈥淭here were things like our post-fire decontamination gear, our Stokes basket rescue stretcher, the standpipes that we need to get the water out of the fire hydrants into the truck, none of that could fit,鈥 said Wright.

鈥淏y the end of that morning, we had probably 20% of our firefighting and rescue gear sitting on the floor without a home for it.鈥

An entry control board to keep track of firefighters in burning buildings 鈥 or the ramps used to drive over hoses 鈥 also did not fit, he said.

Fire and Emergency NZ鈥檚 new deputy national commander Megan Stiffler ordered the Hamilton test when the one at Mt Wellington station failed.

鈥淚deally, would this have happened 鈥 no. But this is a positive story in that we鈥檙e working with the crews on how we can best fit these evolving needs of the rescue teams,鈥 she said.

The two firefighters 鈥 both union representatives at the tests 鈥 said the trucks would be a lot better than existing trucks if used just to pump water, as a large number of fire trucks were.

But a Fire and Emergency NZ schedule showed at least 11 of the 28 trucks were meant to be rescue tenders, equipped with a broad range of gear for fire rescues, car crashes and storms.

The firefighters were in no doubt. Wright circulated an email after his test saying: 鈥淎fter consultation with all party鈥檚 [sic] present it was collectively agreed and recommended that the current Angloco-Man appliance is not suitable for use as a rescue tender in Auckland.鈥

Marshall-Carter鈥檚 team in Hamilton has already told Fire and Emergency NZ they will not use the trucks as they are.

At the test, they pushed back at suggestions from managers who also witnessed the gear piling up on the floor.

鈥淭hey just wanted to seem to cut holes into areas to fit pieces of equipment, into the bodywork as such.

鈥淎s a brigade we just felt like... you鈥檙e starting to compromise the structural integrity.鈥

Stiffler has been in the role of deputy national commander for just a few months, coming from a top fire job in New South Wales.

She gave RNZ an interview, when Fire and Emergency NZ often only provides written statements.

She said it was not about blame.

鈥淥ur project team, which included firefighters, agreed on standard equipment for the build.

鈥淲hat we have is a few of our stations have very specific rescue needs 鈥 an example would be snow chains in Dunedin 鈥 that not everyone needs. And they weren鈥檛 actually captured anywhere on inventory lists.鈥

So the list that went to Britain was smaller than what firefighters needed.

鈥淚 don鈥檛 know why these items weren鈥檛 included in that inventory - as you said, I wasn鈥檛 here. What I can do though, is now that I know the problem needs solving, is work with my crews to find that solution,鈥 she said.

Marshall-Carter, who has worked at stations from Napier to Auckland, was certain that no brigade anywhere could make their essential rescue gear fit.

He and Wright also both rejected the claim that firefighters were consulted.

鈥淭here鈥檚 basically been little to no operational involvement in the design of these trucks,鈥 said Wright.

鈥淚t鈥檚 very perplexing that we have built over 20 of them and delivered them to New Zealand before we鈥檝e actually tried to fit equipment on them and make sure it all fits.

鈥淲hile it鈥檚 ridiculous, it鈥檚 not unexpected.鈥

Fire and Emergency NZ and the Professional Firefighters鈥 Union have been locked in months-long negotiations for a new collective agreement.

The union has been running an online campaign with a diary of truck breakdowns. 鈥淒unedin鈥檚 front-line truck: Broken,鈥 was one entry. Another said a foam truck in Wellington had just one-tenth of the original capacity in a jerry-rigged system

Stiffler said it was about finding a fix.

鈥淲hat we鈥檙e going to do is work with those local areas and understand how their inventory鈥檚 grown and then find a solution that best suits that place.鈥

It was not clear why local needs were not determined before, during the several years the trucks sat in New Zealand waiting for a fit-out in the UK.

Marshall-Carter said they tried as hard as they could to make the gear fit. They had waited a long time for the trucks and he had had high hopes the new truck would go straight to busy Chartwell station as scheduled.

鈥淚f they don鈥檛 get a new appliance, [it] just rolls on and on and on and no one gets the updated trucks.

鈥淏rigades that get less calls, they鈥檙e going to have these 20, 25-year-old trucks just sitting in their station, just waiting.鈥

A Fire and Emergency NZ schedule shows Christchurch brigades were meant to get three new trucks last month.

Local union president Aaron McKay said they were 鈥渆xtremely disappointed鈥 with Fire and Emergency NZ.

鈥淥ur temperamental fleet ... won鈥檛 be updated as soon as we would prefer.鈥

Wright said it was not as if any of the gear that did not fit on was actually 鈥渆xtra鈥.

He had representatives from five rescue tender stations across Auckland 鈥 trainers, group management, fleet and equipment teams, and logistics personnel 鈥 all watching the test.

鈥淲e did try multiple options. And you鈥檙e right, some equipment could come off to fit the other equipment that was on the floor, but none of the equipment was optional.

鈥淚t was all critical firefighting and rescue equipment.

鈥淪o we were stuck.鈥

Stiffler later said the trucks were 鈥渋n the process of transitioning ownership鈥 from the manufacturers to Fire and Emergency NZ, which would involve 鈥渓ocker build鈥 on each vehicle.

The scheduled dates provided to RNZ earlier were arrival dates in New Zealand. 鈥淲e are about a week behind schedule.鈥

-RNZ

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